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Jonathan Pryce Masterclass
Current mood: productive
Category: Jobs, Work, Careers
Matt Wolf – Theatre journalist acts as interlocutor
MW: How did you come to the decision to be an actor?
JP: I grew up in North Wales – theatre didn't feature strongly and I didn't have the habit of going much. I used to watch plays live on television and occasionally went to see pantomime.
I then went to Art School at sixteen and from there went on to train to teach art. I had to do a subsidiary course and was told the easiest thing to do was Drama (!) Gerry Dawson was my tutor, he ran an amateur company which I started working with . It was through this that the suggestion was put to me to apply to Drama School, particularly RADA. I auditioned for Bristol and RADA and was excepted, I chose RADA because the waved the fees. I really fell into acting.
MW: What did your parents think?
JP: By then I was Twenty one and they didn't object, we didn't really have that kind of relationship.
MW: RADA must have been an introduction to London and London Theatre for you?
JP: RADA was all about discovering theatre and a repertoire of plays. I was raw material because I had never thought about wanting to act, so I had an individual approach.
I had a very bad experience when I played Pushkin (Chekhov) and had tried to discover what the man was about in my interpretation. The tutors tore into me, I almost gave up then but one tutor, John Harrison came and told me I was right to perform it in the way I did and not to give up.
MW: Was RADA a difficult time?
JP: No I loved it. Impro was my favourite subject. Keith Johnson taught me and Ben Benison worked on mime with us. Through Keith's comic impro style I was able to use humour to free me up to approach other work.
I was also trained in RP and so lost the majority of my Welsh accent.
MW: How did you get your first job after Drama School?
JP: I did Oklahoma! At RADA, Tony Haines was MD on the how and he was going on to the Everyman in Liverpool to do the Caucasian Chalk Circle. He recommended me and I went there for that show and stayed for 2 years.
MW: Why has regional theatre changed so much?
JP: In those days you had to go off and do your minimum number of weeks on your equity card. I regret the weakening of the Union in this sense, as regional theatre has suffered as a result. Then theatres around the country: Bristol, Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester etc is where young actors went too to hone their craft. Aaron Dosser, Artistic Director of the Everyman focused on socialist theatre and all the new plays staged were written with a local, political slant (playwrights such as: John McGrath, Adrian Mitchell, Chris Bond). Richard Eyre directed a play at Everyman and asked me to go to the Nottingham Playhouse – that was the next step for me. Regional theatre was thriving at the time, it provided exciting, radical theatre – then Margaret Thatcher happened and her government had no interest in the arts – huge funding cuts ensued which had a very detrimental effect on theatres around the country. The changes were enormous and celebrity became very important instead of the craft.
I went from Nottingham Playhouse back to the Everyman to direct. I formed and ran a company for 9 months – the company included Julie Walters, Pete Pothelswaite and Bill Nighy – a great group of actors but I never wanted to direct again after the experience!
MW: How did your move to London happen?
JP: I was very happy in Liverpool – London was there for one day but I was in no rush. I did some TV as to supplement the theatre. At that time film seemed to be what other people did.
I had an agent, Jimmy Sharpy, who became my agent when I was working as a dresser fo another actor – he remained my British agent for 25 years.
The show which bought me to London was The Comedians. Peter Hall had introduced a scheme to bring regional theatre to London and so we transferred to the Old Vic. Alex Cohen then took the show and me with it to Broadway.
MW: You won a Tony Award in New York – did you want to stay?
JP: No, from NY I went to LA and went to many, many meetings. All were fairly horrific so I decided Hollywood was probably not for me and headed back to England.
MW: You have since made a lot of films – how did you re-approach Hollywood?
JP: I did Hamlet and Jack Clayton who was working for Disney came to see it, that got me into films.
MW: Do you enjoy working between New York and London?
JP: Yes, although I did not do so much when my children were young. It is a very different experience, especially when doing a Musical on Broadway , theatre is held up by the community as much more than it is in London – there is also a greater sense of community among performers.
MW: How do you feel about performing American writers on the London stage? You are currently in Glengarry Glen Ross by David Mamet and you also performed in Edward Albee's The Goat.
JP: I have to do work in the theatre that will stand being repeated 8 times a week. Both these plays are incredibly well written and so are enduring and interesting to do. This is also why I enjoy doing musicals – they belong and are meant to be re-done.
MW: Glengarry Glen Ross – you were in the original film, has this been strange doing it in what could be described in the wrong order – film to stage?
JP: Well there were 15 years in between the two. So the play felt like a new experience – it is also quite different from the movie as there was an extra character added for the film version.
Mamet is the nearest thing to a musical without music.
MW: The rhythms of Mamet are quite different from other writers – is this interesting to perform?
JP: Mamet and Pinter fall into that same category, that there is a presumed way of doing them. They both say that what they have written is a guide not a necessity.
With Mamet it really helps if you use those guides.
When I did Miss Saigon I had never done a musical before. You have to follow the structure of a musical – the discipline of this is not restricting it actually gives you more freedom. This is also true of Mamet. There is a security with the words and the rhythms. If you follow Mamet you can almost use the saying Say the lines and avoid the furniture.
Questions from the Audience.
What are the differences between working with British or American actors?
JP: It's more to do with individuals and how they approach their work. It's about the differences between theatre and TV and film. If an American actor has done lots of theatre it is fine – because a stage actor knows how to share with the audience and other actors. If they are mainly a film / screen actor then nothing goes beyond the end of their feet – their performances are not opened up for the audience.
Comments on Improvisation
JP: Keith Johnson taught comedy-based impro. There is also impro around a text – to help you as an actor to open it up using your own words. Impro helps with your inhibitions about performing. In Glengarry Glen Ross we didn't actually do any discussion around the text or about what we were doing on stage because it all just fitted and worked.
Impro people on TV have a huge back catalogue that they can draw on when under pressure.
Have you ever had a dry spell?
JP: No, I've been lucky and always worked.
Do you ever get anxious about what you are doing?
JP: Only if you allow yourself to think too much about it. Don't examine it too much. Remind yourself why the audience is there and what they are getting from it, rather than thinking about what you do.
Do you have a technique or process?
JP: Not really – it depends in the production.
One thing to always do is to LISTEN to the other characters with you on stage, what is said about your character informs your behaviour.
What should you avoid to be successful?
JP: On a more positive – what you should EMBRACE is a real desire, need and what to do it. Mistakes you make inform successes you have later. You must always know it is hard work.
How do you get seen?
JP: Only advice I can give on this is, yes it is hard, but the best advice is to just WORK, whatever it is DO IT.
Do you have a favourite director you would like to work with again?
JP: I can list directors to avoid! Aaron Dosser was a huge influence on my career, he had great vision (former artistic director of the Everyman). It was very enjoyable working with Anthony Page on The Goat, he is very astute.
George Clooney was also an interesting, delightful and clear director (recently directed Jonathan in LEATHERHEADS, out later this year)
How do you make the transition between film and theatre acting?
JP: Louder in the theatre!
Seriously – when performing to camera you need to maintain energy in your body and mind when performing to camera. On camera if you think it, it will happen.
How do you maintain the energy needed for a long run in the theatre?
JP: Well my longest runs have been with musicals (Miss Saigon was 2 years) but there is a different energy needed for a straight play – in a musical you are carried by the rest of the cast, like a train. I think 3 – 4 months is enough for a straight play, it can be very draining in an emotionally challenging role. I met Lee Strasburg years ago and saw him teach (an experience I found quite horrifying). I asked him how one can keep the energy for a long run. His response was " You do it. It's your job". That is the right answer. Unless you keep the energy up it is an unsatisfying experience for the audience and for you.
Have you worked with any exceptionally good / bad actors?
JP: Is this the Madonna questions?! She is good to work with, extremely professional. De Niro was hard-work the first time and then he spoke more the second time!
Generally actors are great people – you occasionally come across an unpleasant person but they are rare.
Best prank in the theatre?
JP: My friend Nick played Pickering in My Fair Lady – every opening scene there was lots of ad libbing and he would say such ridiculous things that I would be almost hysterical just as I had to sing the opening song.
Do you get more out of performing musicals or plays?
I get a lot from both for different reasons.
MW: What about your experiences on Oliver!
JP: I really found Oliver! difficult – I didn't want to do Fagan, I had turned it down. However, I then went to do a film in Utah which was the worst experience I have had filming. It was with River Phoenix, with whom I got on with extremely well, but who then died part way through filming from a drug overdose. The whole experience was so awful I didn't feel like I ever wanted to make another film, so I contacted Cameron Macintosh and said yes to Fagan. A year later when I actually came to play the part, I was over the ordeal in Utah and wanted to be making films again. Every time I performed that part I questioned what on earth I was doing.
Is there a theatre you would love to work in?
JP: I would have liked to have done Miss Saigon at The National, but I will work wherever the work is interesting – if the play is right I'll go there.
How do you keep a sense of humour?
JP: A normal home life, good friends help. I have a lot of friends who are actors who understand. There are extraordinary things about this profession – one of the big downsides is getting the job in the first place. It is frustrating how many people there are don't know what they're doing in this industry. But the best way to keep a sense of humour is to have good friends and keep grounded.
All who attended thoroughly enjoyed Jonathan's Masterclass, he gave an honest, direct insight into his varied and successful career.
The next Masterclass is with RAY FEARON on 16 November at 2.30pm. It is nearly fully booked so go to www.masterclass.org.uk soon to book your place.
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