Agree to disagree. I dont know what that is. But i wish someone could tell me. If you are discussing sports or something and disagree on who's gonna win for whatever advantages it's ok to agree to disagree. But on an issue as heavy as 9/11 and the new world order it's not.(This is not aimed at cho by any means) But for things as horrible as mass genecide for war profits and oil should be discussed til you fuking agree. Dont you?
This is a well put together presentation on the Pretext toward a North American Union.This is an issue that will affect all of us in the years to come, perhaps the most important issue of the day.Not surprisingly, you have yet to hear the main stream media report on this issue.(with the exception of Lou Dobbs)The first step to stopping this loss of National sovereignty from occurring is to be well informed and to inform others.The following presentation lays it all out for you.Please love your children enough to watch. ..:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
This presentation is an important, detailed and timely look at the forming of the North American Union (NAU). This information is mosthelpful to those who know little about the NAU or the CFR or The Foundation (SPP). E-mail todd@stopthenau.org to request a copy of this presentation (Parts 1-5) on DVD. Donations appreciated - once you receive the DVD please mail donation to the return address on the envelope. Thank you. In partnership with Oregonians to Stop the North American Union.
Part 1 & 2
Part 3
Part 4 & 5
For those who don't believe that something is real until the mainstream media talks about it.....here's Lou Dobbs slamming the NAU.Kudos to Lou Dobbs for keeping Ron Paul in the spotlight.
800 Degrees versus the 500 of world trade center2. THINK
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Ok, The first tower to fall; fell with tempuratures only reaching 500 degrees. Now how could this one not fall after burning for two days at tempuratures of up to 800 degrees? ?????
Firefighters shot jets of water onto one of Madrid's tallest office buildings this morning, fighting to control a blaze that burned all night and threatened to bring down the 32-story skyscraper.
"We are battling Madrid's most important fire in its history," said mayor Alberto Ruiz-Gallardon speaking from the scene at about 9am (0800GMT).
"The situation right now is still of high risk," he added, 10 hours after fire engulfed the Windsor Building in the heart of Madrid's business and banking district. "It will take hours until this fire is declared under control."
With morning light, the damage from the spectacular blaze that lit up the night and attracted thousands of onlookers was evident. The top floors were little more than charred steel twisted into destroyed shapes. Everything else was burned away.
Amazingly, a construction crane remained perched on the roof.
Roads for two to three blocks in all directions were closed off to traffic, including the main north-south artery Castellana boulevard. Fire trucks, emergency and police vehicles blocked the intersections, while service was curtailed on three subway lines that ran below or near the building.
A filmy soot covered nearby sidewalks and buildings, and a smell of burnt metal hung in the air.
The dirty white smoke that poured upward from the building was visible from several kilometres (miles) away.
There were no reported injuries except for three firefighters who suffered smoke inhalation and exhaustion. At its peak, temperatures reached 800 degrees Celsius (1,472 F), said Javier Sanz, head of Madrid firefighters, on Sunday.
Against the night sky, bright orange flames shot out the sides and top of building, producing thick columns of black smoke. At about 3 am (0200GMT), at least six of the upper floors collapsed in a shower of flaming metal debris.
The building, reportedly the fourth largest in Madrid, was believed unoccupied when the fire broke out.
The cause was not immediately determined, though emergency services spokesman Javier Ayuso said firefighters think it may have been an electrical short circuit.
Police evacuated a nearby apartment building and hosed down neighbouring office buildings to keep the fire from spreading.
Most of the Windsor Building, about 106 metres (350 feet) high, housed offices of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, a multinational financial services company. The fire appeared to start about three-quarters of the way up the building.
As the fire burned into the night, all that was visible of the upper parts of the building was the flaming, gutted remains of steel-reinforced concrete floors.
Construction of the Windsor Building began in 1973 and was completed in 1979. The shiny gold building was a landmark structure in Madrid's business district. The building had been surrounded with scaffolding due to recent repairs.
MADRID (Reuters) - A 32-storey Madrid skyscraper gutted by the biggest blaze in the city's history will be taken apart piece by piece from the outside because it is too dangerous to enter, a townhall official says.
Madrid's eighth tallest building was reduced to a blackened concrete skeleton at the weekend when a fire that lit up the night sky like a huge torch devoured the 106-metre-high building from the top down.
"Given the seriousness and extent of the damage ... the adoption of any security measure to avoid new collapses would be totally useless," urban affairs councillor Pilar Martinez said on Thursday.
"As a result it will be declared a ruin and (we will proceed with) its complete demolition," she added.
A system of cranes will be set up to allow the charred remains, in the heart of the city's financial district, to be picked apart from outside.
"It can't be done from inside because of the state of the building, so the cranes will have to be outside and (workers) will cut it apart piece by piece and bring it down."
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Now. The biggest most common thing that people who dont believe this tell me after I tell them that the impact alone wasn't enough to bring down the infulstructure of the building is and i quote " It was the jet fuel that burned so hot that it melted the steel beams.
Well people, here are a few facts, the steel beams in that tower need up to 1800 degree's fairenheit to melt, no lower. Tower one reached around 1500, and this tower only reached around 500 hundred dergrees and only burned for 49 MINUTES before it fell to the ground at free fall speed. This tower in madrid burned for TWO DAYS at tempuratures of up to 800 degree's.
So. Basically facts are facts. and if people are questioning the source of these facts than they need also to question the source and integrity of the supposed "facts" that our government and George Bush give us. That's also a big reason why people dont want to think about it. Because they dont know who to beleieve.
Well. I for one have my own fucking shuvel and I'm digging for some truth of my own. Is all people care about is finding happiness and or having that dream life????
All I have to say is that All these fools below is That they are the idiots in the dark. World trade center 7 did not collapse because of the collapse of the world trade center!! If that was so; Why didn't any of the other buildings near it do the same. Buildings which are smaller and older!!! Think about it....ok Now; fro the next chick um "hun" just do your self a favor and watch 9/11 re-opened. There are plenty of engineers and intelectuals with the facts of nature/laws of pyhsics that will give you the evidence of what did actually take those beams down. it's called "thermate", and it will aslo tell you how much heat it takes for a beam to melt and how much lower the Karosine fires actually were during the incident. Gabzz103 all your evidence you want is on a ton of well respected web-site. with well respected experts on demolitions, physics, chemistry, and engineering that agree with this Un-deniable theory. Use your brains and think just about the facts. forget for a second what it all means. and just look into it. with an open mind. Be on the fence for like an hour one day and just watch one of the more respected videos like loose change 2nd or what convinced me with just pure facts from tones and tones of experts 9/11 re-opened. You owe it to yourself atleast as a u.s. citizen to look into the facts. and remember just because your current "office" is evil doesn't mean your country is evil. So don't think of yourself as less patriotic for asking the wuestion but more patriotric "for" asking the question. This country was born on that exact same Principal. Don't you forget that. Our government can be just as easily crrupted as another. and in fact would be A more desirable target for corruption..... Why? Because we are the most powerful. Think about it
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